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YEs, edis. Thanks.My dad has been Labour for 40 y...

2008-06-12T23:47:00.000+01:00

YEs, edis. Thanks.

My dad has been Labour for 40 years - seeing them do this to principles he brought me up to respect (and which led me to the Lib Dems) sickens me.

Scott

A bit of confused language here surely? I think Sc...

2008-06-12T19:42:00.000+01:00

A bit of confused language here surely? I think Scott meant to say that his Labour-supporting father has been betrayed not that teh LibDems have backslid.

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2008-06-12T19:41:00.000+01:00

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In what way have the LDs betrayed civil liberties?...

2008-06-12T19:18:00.000+01:00

In what way have the LDs betrayed civil liberties? they voted against the bill.

David Davies' resignation could blow up in everyon...

2008-06-12T16:20:00.000+01:00

David Davies' resignation could blow up in everyone's face if Gordon Brown has even a shred of his reputation left.

Brown winning 42 days by rampant bribery will be forgotten, and all it will take is some right wing xenophobic voting in the by-election and Brown could sneak in for another general election win.

Another win, and more Brown grandstanding as the tough man could see that 90 day limit broken.

Nick Clegg and David Cameron really need to support Davies on this, or there could be a disaster.

I'm an academic lawyer, working in a very differen...

2008-06-12T11:13:00.000+01:00

I'm an academic lawyer, working in a very different sphere from civil liberties but outraged by these actions, disgusted that a party my father has supported for over 40 years (I'm Lib Dem) has betrayed the very principles that I was brought up to respect and which have underpinned my life. As someone who has posted on this occasionally on my own blog I'd like to thank you for your consistent campaign against these measures. For those of us agin them your well-reasoned, well-argued and justifiably angry posts have expressed the disgust in the most eloquent way.

And that we now need to rely on the Lords, knowing that those I vilified as I grew up are going to be part of the batallions against the measures, just crowns things.

Scott

Actually, according to Bookdrunk the DUP get £200m...

2008-06-12T00:33:00.000+01:00

Actually, according to Bookdrunk the DUP get £200million, AND abortion stays illegal in NI. Hooray for democracy!

And when the next terrorist attack takes place wit...

2008-06-12T00:24:00.000+01:00

And when the next terrorist attack takes place with 42 days detention doing absolutely nothing to prevent it, wanna bet we start hearing calls for 90 days, 120 days, 365 days?

I caught the result on channel 4 news. Jon Snow could barely contain his disgust (approaching fury) at the obvious bribery that's gone on. The DUP fella they wheeled out was extremely defensive about what they're getting in return for their support (at least 200million quid I believe). And the Lords may be able to stall it, but it's going onto the statute books whatever happens.
I'm surprised at just how sick I feel about this.

This is such a Pyrrhic "victory" that it's worse t...

2008-06-12T00:17:00.000+01:00

This is such a Pyrrhic "victory" that it's worse than a defeat. New Labour is at its nadir, bereft of its last remaining shreds of moral authority, and Brown has regressed from Mr Bean to Mr Has-Been [if he ever was]. The plots will redouble now.

And it's a pointless piece of macho tokenism which, if it ever becomes law, will be as unworkable as it is unnecessary. I am prepared to eat any article of clothing you designate if the 42-day provision is ever invoked.