tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post5743518894427251757..comments2024-01-03T06:47:01.541+00:00Comments on Obsolete: Eliza Manningham-Bullshitter.septicislehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-68105426913319930242010-03-12T20:10:59.079+00:002010-03-12T20:10:59.079+00:00I don't know, why do we worry about it? Proba...I don't know, why do we worry about it? Probably because even at a very basic level torture doesn't work, as proved by KSM himself, who said absolutely anything and everything to his willing torturers, none of which was useful. Your whole point is a mess of contradictions: we shouldn't respect the rights of "terrorists", assuming they are terrorists of course, as Binyam Mohamed wasn't, and nor has even KSM been convicted in an actual court yet, as they don't respect them. Presumably we should lower ourselves to their level then? The actions of the CIA and MI5/6 might just have been justifiable if they made us safer, but they haven't: they further lowered our reputation in the Middle East, and will doubtless help to radicalise the next generation of potential terrorists.septicislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03369157723084834549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14422435.post-21588891318939938632010-03-12T07:41:51.689+00:002010-03-12T07:41:51.689+00:00It's all very well to rant about lies and cove...It's all very well to rant about lies and cover up by our security services; what you say in your blog is probably true. However, perhaps we should take a step back here and consider the implications of so quickly condemning our security services for the methods they employ to gain valuable intelligence to combat terrorism. Basically it boils down to human rights and there lies the dichotomy by protecting the human rights of murdering ghastly terrorist who would not think twice about blowing you up or any innocent person to further their heinous ends you are infringing on the human right of the rest of us, the right to life and that life without fear. So don't be so high and mighty in your condemnation; terrorist set no store by protecting our human rights (probably do not know what the words mean) so why worry so much about protecting theirs?Antistheneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10120647617145756102noreply@blogger.com